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                                                                    editorial
                                                                     demonews
                                                                    party on!
                                                          
                                                                       weekly
                                                                  interview -
                                                                       demo -
          What's a mailing list?                                      intro -
                                                                        mod -
                                                                      quote -
          Oh, look! How nice...
                                                                   commercial break
          A hole for me to crawl into!!!                            homepages

                                                                     articles
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        I know! I know!
        Sorry...

          Anyways... I don't know what to write... Oh yeah... I got some
        feedback to intro'o'week text. Not good! ONCE AGAIN I PLEA FOR HELP
        on the intro'o'week and mod'o'week!
          I'm kind of tired of saying always the same stuff every-week so
        this time i'll just dump some mindless giberish on the editorial! ;)

        <some mindless giberish here>

          There! I feel better now... Of back to studying. Hope you all
        forgive and forget the mailing-list thingie and enjoy yet another
        issue of demojournal! Feel happy and stuff...

                                                             Psychic Symphony


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        Yez had this to say:
       /-------------------
        omnicolour news :

        pill also some time ago known as visual/floppy^nah kolor has been
        REMOVED from the list of omnicolour members (thank you for your
        cooperation, have a nice and successful REAL life pal)

        current memberlist  looks like this :

        cortez    swapp,net
        jlt             programming
        spk         graphics
        xhyp       music
        yez         music, organizing

        thank you for your attention [ed: your welcome!]
       \-------------------


        And Trajic/Rhyme felt like contributing aswell:
          CHROME - they did not release their new production called 'MOON'
        yet, but they announce the new project, an artdisk of the most
        popular hungarian pixelartist and hobby-musician ENOK! The title and
        the details are classified yet... [http://www.scene-hu.com]


        You might want to check out what Jace/TBL thinks about TP8 organizers
        http://members.xoom.com/Jace_TBL/demo.html


        And finally, #coders@EFnet homepage lives:
        http://coderz.cjb.net


        And now here is Dave/Phymosys with own little corner:

 News from SPAIN:

  I (DAVE / PhyMosys) have made public 'Kame Graphics Viewer v0.05'.
   Here I have included a short description.

                  Ŀ
                        KAME Graphics Viewer        
                  Ĵ
                   Full compatible with DOS, WIN95  
                   and WIN98 GUI oriented viewer    
                   for Pentium processors which     
                   allows you to read image formats.
                   It also lets you to make         
                   special effects (mainly filters).
                  

   Download and check it now!
   Available on:
   http://come.to/davecorner

  Finally Aktiv started coding and making gfx for a MusicDisk from
   PhyMosys. We hope it will be also available at the begining of
   February.


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starts !=! ends !===! location !===! name !=========! contact !================

Dec 12 - Dec 13, 1998 Slovenia  Abort '98           http://gw2.s-gimb.lj.edus.si/~abort98/
Dec 15 - Dec 17, 1998 Israel    Movement '98        http://scene-central.com/partyspecial/mov98/info.html
Dec 18 - Dec 20, 1998 Hungary   JuMPer '98          http://scene-hu.com/~jumper
Dec <canceled> , 1998 Poland    Freeside'98         http://freeside.dr.pl
Dec 19 - Dec 20, 1998 Romania   Dracula '98
Dec 20 - Dec 20, 1998 Russia    EarthQuake '99      www.crosswinds.net/russia/~earthquake/
Dec 25 - Dec 27, 1998 Argentina The Flash '98       theflashparty.home.ml.org
Dec 27 - Dec 29, 1998 Denmark   The Party 1998      http://www.theparty.dk


=========! present time !======================================================


Jan 15 - Jan 17, 1999 Finland   Elevator '99        http://www.elevator.labra.com
Jan 29 - Jan 31, 1999 Hungary   Contest '99
Jan 29 - Jan 31, 1999 Sweden    Midwinter '99       hack.amiga-cg.se/midwinter

Feb 19 - Feb 21, 1999 France    Volcanic '99
Feb 26 - Feb 28, 1998 Holland   Ambience '99        http://overflow.hro.nl/ambience

Mar ?? - ??? ??, 1999 Italy     Trip '99            www.nigma.it/trip99
Mar ?? - ??? ??, 1999 Poland    Astrosyn '99
Mar 31 - Apr 04, 1999 Norway    The Gathering '99

Apr 02 - Apr 05, 1999 Germany   Mekka & Symp. 2k-1  http://ms.demo.org
Apr 16 - Apr 18, 1999 France    Arf!Party

May 29 - May 30, 1999 Germany   Komso/Neithernor'99 http://neithernor.demo.org

Jun 04 - Jun 06, 1999 Holland   Takeover '99        http://www.takeover.nl
Jun 17 - Jun 20, 1999 Sweden    Remedy '99          http://www.remedy.nu

Jul 09 - Jul 11, 1999 Belgium   Inscene '99         www.analogica.com/inscene
Jul 09 - Jul 10, 1999 UK        Dejavu '99          http://www.dejavu.org.uk

??? ?? - ??? ??, 1999 France    Slach 2             www.mygale.org/~myke666
??? ?? - ??? ??, 1999 Hungary   Rage-Scenest'99

Sep 04 - Sep 05, 1999 Portugal  DemoPorto '99       demoporto99@hotmail.com


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        This week! I have been mostly eating... white rice!


=====! interview !=============================================================

        Session Start: Wed Jan 06 04:01:32 1999

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        <^flex^> yo..

        <Psychic_S> hello

        <^flex^> hit it =)

        <Psychic_S> 1st and in like all interviews... why the hell are you
                    up at 5am???

        <^flex^> Hehe, i code, so naturally i twist my life-cycle.. =)

        <Psychic_S> can you please tell us who you are and what is it you
                    do? ;)

        <^flex^> My name is Stefan Sandberg 19 years old.. "In real life"
                 i'm more or less out of work, but i'm involved in this weird
                 program where we can do basically anything we want and get
                 paid for it.. So we nagged a while and finally we got 2
                 computers and a compiler, so now we're doing a TG-demo for
                 cash!, so expect a great demo.. =)

        <Psychic_S> humm... your doing a demo for cash?
                    Thats interesting!!! where do i sign in? :D

        <^flex^> Yeah, we decided that the coolest thing to do a project
                 about was a TG-demo.. So we're working from 08:30 -> 16:00,
                 5 days a week, and get 2000:- a month for doing it  (not
                 that great, but since i would be doing it at home anyway,
                 it's perfect.. =))
                 hehe it's a EU-project in sweden =)

        <Psychic_S> oh yes! you are swedish... tell us about sweden and its
                    scene

        <^flex^> Well, the swedish scene is "afraid" of alcohol, which isn't
                 really my style.. and alot of people are too unserious,
                 they come to a party just to release crap productions that
                 are never ment to really compete..  But the serious groups
                 in sweden i think are heading really high... watch out, dear
                 finns.. =)

        <Psychic_S> haha... what about the background? can you tell us about
                    the background of the swedish scene, along with yours
                    since your at it

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        <Psychic_S> flex: its ur interview! kick the intruders if you
                    want! :D

        *** Mr has left #demojournal [ed: that was fun!]

        <^flex^> Well, i didn't start releasing stuff until oh, 1996 i think,
                 but i was very interested in the scene before that.. We all
                 remember Cascada for example.. they're somewhat the backbone
                 of the swedish scene i think..   I (like many others) got
                 the urge to start coding effects for real after i saw
                 Second reality back in 93. (although i didn't see it until
                 94, on my friends deadly quich 386.. =))
                 naa, they can watch.,as long as they shuttup =)

        <Psychic_S> ick! another case of "i saw 2nd reality and wanted to do
                    that!" ?

        <^flex^> hehe yup =)
                 i still think it's a great demo..

        <Psychic_S> no amiga days for you then?

        <^flex^> no, i have never owned an amiga, but i had my very first
                 coding-attempts on a vic20..

        <Psychic_S> vic20? whats that?

        <^flex^> we actually just had a discussion about doing Second reality
                 in 64kb..
                 the tiny little computah that came before the c-64 oh, 20
                 years ago.. =)

        <Psychic_S> humm... dont know "my tiny computah" history :(
                    oh well... back to nowdays... what have you released?

        <^flex^> hmm i've released a few demos and a few intros...
                 dunno how many right now.. =)

        <Psychic_S> take your time to count... =)

        <^flex^> 3-4 intros at least i think..
                 i have 13 directories in my c:\develop\demo\projects\
                 anyway. =)
                 seems to be accurate. 
                 am i supposed to know these things?  poor orange & tpolm. =)

        * ^flex^ lights a cigarette..

        <Psychic_S> haha

        <Psychic_S> dont u know those things can kill ya? (cigars i mean)

        <^flex^> i'm thinking about getting a beer too.. i have a few now
                 after the party.. =)

        <Psychic_S> ok... oh yeah... u went to the party 8! tell us about
                    the enviroment

        <^flex^> "who want's to live forever".
                 (with powerful background-music) =)

        <Psychic_S> hehe

        <^flex^> tp this year was really neat..  since i had my demo done
                 prior to the party, i could spend more time boozing and
                 meeting people (instead of sitting coding all the time).
                 The best part i think was when Poison/Inf got back from the
                 hospital.. he got so damn drunk the cops fetched him and put
                 him in the hospital over night..  that's what i call party
                 spirit. =)   But i really hate the party organizers, it's
                 the second year in a row (damn it's hard typing with this
                 cigarette =)), that they've screwed up our contribution..
                 Last year they -forgot- to show our intro, so half the
                 audience had left by the time it started.. and this year
                 they showed our demo with lousy sound (more like random
                 noise) in just the right speaker at 50% the volume.. =(
        
        <Psychic_S> and what place did you get with that?

        <^flex^> that's why the demo placed 16 out of 20 =(   which in my
                 opinion isn't giving the demo justice..)
                 i was aiming at like.. 5-6'th or so..

        <Psychic_S> i agree with you on that! but ofcourse i like 80% of the
                    demos i see so... :P

        <^flex^> hehe most demos are great, as long as they are serious..

        <Psychic_S> and what about the top ones? care to say a few words
                    about them?

        <^flex^> i personally don't think the winning demo should win...
                 sure it was very fun and great code, but it's not a winning
                 type demo.. Bombs State of mind on the other hand is very
                 damn nice.. great code and great music..   And i also think
                 Inf's Yume2 should have gotten a more fair treatment than
                 4th. I -love- that tune (Aikawa Nanase)

        <Psychic_S> i still cant see inf's  :(

        <^flex^> mp3 tracks are the wave of the future..  we're having mp3
                 music on our tg-demo for example..
                 well, kravitz is working on a final now... should be
                 available soon [ed: i can't wait!!!]

        <Psychic_S> what about blasphemy+purple? what do you think of it?
        
        <^flex^> i was abit dissapointed about blasphemy/purple's demo..
                 When i first heard that they were doing a coop, i though
                 something like "Plastik + Lois Lane = powah!", but it wasn't
                 near my expectations..   but it's still a good demo..

        <Psychic_S> why mp3?

        <^flex^> mp3 lets the musicians deal with midi for example.. they
                 don't have to think about size in the same way, and (best
                 of all) mp3 allows vocals!.. vocals are imo the thing that's
                 missing in most demos.

        <^flex^> it's alittle too much to have commercial music as
                 demo-tracks though..
                 I don't think anyone dissagrees that bombs and infs demos
                 have the best music in a demo ever.. even if they are
                 commercial tracks..

        <Psychic_S> humm... yeah... vocals can grab attention indeed
                    what are your favorite scene coders/gfx/musicians?

        <^flex^> My favourite coder has to be Statix.. i just can't grasp
                 that guys enormous brain! =)

        <Psychic_S> haha

        <^flex^> Best graphician i think is Made or Sunday... Sunday has a
                 really great style and he doesn't repaint scans...  Oh, and
                 i must say a few words about our graphician, NamNam... He is
                 very talented and he -never- repaints pics or scans.. He
                 does everything either straight from his head or from some
                 kind of picture he has seen... If he would redraw a scan, he
                 would most probably be around the best gfx dudes around..
                 It's nothing i encourage him to do though, since it's
                 -abit- lame..
                 i really enjoy Mufflers music right now.. And Balrog has
                 nice variations in his tunes.. balrog never makes 2 mods
                 sound the same...

        <Psychic_S> i seen some of his pics on blocc's demos.. superfish had
                    some nice manga-style girls. was that him? or baloo?

        <^flex^> no, that was NamNam..
                 a few words about planet superfish..  That demo isn't
                 really anything i'm proud over.. it's way to messy..
                 but the noizy 3d-wireobject is cool =)

        <Psychic_S> yeah... u seem to like balrog... how many co-op's have
                    you done with him? 2?
                    u dont have much pride on your stuff do you?

        <^flex^> hmm I've made one demo together with Balrog i think..
                 (w8 have to chech to be sure =))

        <Psychic_S> i think 2!

        <^flex^> no, w8  2 demos with balrog. =)
                 na, i've never done anything that i can say; "ah, this is
                 me, and i can't do anything better"...   i always do too
                 short demos too, imo..

        <Psychic_S> humm... ur still after your second reality... :)

        <^flex^> hehe yeah.. i have this dream to like.. win assembly with
                 100% of the votes. =)
                 (what coder doesn't? =))

        <Psychic_S> hahaha
                    i would be happy to just get a big-demo out! :D
                    anyways... more questions...

        <^flex^> just get to it. =)

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        <altemarq> FLEX AR NAKEN [ed: what the?!?]

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        <Psychic_S> time for demojournal "youll never guess it top-quizz"

        <Psychic_S> 1) what does FLEX AR NAKEN mean? [ed: yeah...]

        <^flex^> i really have no idea.. [ed: that bad, hei?]

        <Psychic_S> 2) whats the capital of madagascar?

        <^flex^> can u wait a few minutes on that one? =)
                 w8, isn't madagascar an island belonging to another country?

        <Psychic_S> no. its independent...
                    and its a damn big island!!!

        <^flex^> like.. it doesn't have a capital? =)
                 ok, darn. =) hehehe that much i know. =)

        <Psychic_S> 3) what's the medium rain/cm3 per year on sweden?

        <^flex^> hmm i would say around 20cm or so... maybe it's more, i hate
                 the swedish weather. =)
                 hmm that doesn't sound alot, does it?
                 maybe 200cm?  haha =)

        <Psychic_S> er... no it doesnt...
                    no wait... i got it wrong! [ed: stupid!]

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        <Psychic_S> its cc's per cm^3 anyways...

        <^flex^> hmm yeah, then 20cm sounds reasonable. =)

        <Psychic_S> 4) whats the flying speed of a seagull?

        <^flex^> depends on if it's an african or european seagull.

        <Psychic_S> 5) if a plane with english and french passengers crashes
                    on the swiss/germany frontier, where are the survivors
                    burried?

        <Psychic_S> flex: hei! u seen monthy pythons!!!! :P

        [editor: i think in the movie it was not about seagull's but some
                 other bird... never the less, nice one flex!]

        <^flex^> bury the survivors? sounds abit nasty.. =)

        <Psychic_S> of course you realize i must kill you now dont you? :P

        <^flex^> no! no! i have a wife and kids!

        <Psychic_S> u do? :P
                    you have a family picture to prove that?

        <^flex^> hmm no.. that was just a defense mechanism. =)

        <Psychic_S> hehe what about your real life? no luck with the opposite
                    sex? :(

        <^flex^> naa, i'm actually blessed with a great exterior... =)
                 i don't have problems getting girls, to be honest..
                 [editor: and you expect us to believe that? ;)]

        <Psychic_S> seeing anyone right now?

        <^flex^> that doesn't sound right, but it's true..

        <Psychic_S> haha =)

        <^flex^> yeah, but she's ILL!.. it's called kartel-feber in swedish..
                 so i can't see her for like.. 3 weeks or so, and she can't
                 drink any alcohol in 6 months. =)

        <Psychic_S> :( too bad [ed: the alcohol part of course! ;)]

        <^flex^> yeah =)

        <Psychic_S> i think im running out of questions
                    care to say hello to someone?

        <^flex^> Are these questions made out for you, or are you figuring
                 them out as you go along? =)
                 "running out of questions"- sounds like you reached the end
                 of the paper or something. =)

        <Psychic_S> no no... but i have done so many interviews i already
                    know the typical questions

        <^flex^> hehe ok =) thee greetings then:

        <Psychic_S> its always... who are you, what u done lately, what do
                    you like doing, what u plan to do for the future, thats
                    nice... care to say grtx? [ed: yeah... me too! (?)]

        <^flex^> I'd like to say hi to all the serious scene-people out
                 there, "keep up da great work, lads!". And to all my
                 non-scene friends.. (Happy 20th birthday Martin..).. Oh,
                 and ofcourse my friends in the scene...  And all the girls
                 i know and will get to know in the future aswell.. =)

        <Psychic_S> hehe

        <^flex^> Lets make the scene come alive for real the next millenium..
                 =)

        <Psychic_S> care to say anything else? any free advertisement and
                    stuff?

        <^flex^> Hm... Drink more alcohol! It feeds the cortex with needed
                 basic stuff for wonderful demo-ideas!
                
        <Psychic_S> haha! is beer better than vodka or not?

        <^flex^> i'm not so keen on vodka.. but i'd rather drink a bottle of
                 tequilla than 20 beers!
                 tequilla rules..

        <Psychic_S> ok... i guess this is it
                    leave some url's or email or smtg so ppl can get in
                    touch

        <^flex^> i think this is  to long for any normal person to read
                 already. =) yeah, my email addy is mjflex@hotmail.com...
                 that's about it i guess..
                 gonna put up some blocc homepage someday too..
                 www.blocc.gov or something =)

        <Psychic_S> haha ok! :)
                    thx for your time! :)

        <^flex^> great.. no prob.. !

        Session Close: Wed Jan 06 05:07:26 1999


=====! demo !==================================================================

        2 by Eastgate (final-version)
        Found on www.hornet.org.
        (Hornet is still up and www.scene.org is down... It's a conspiracy!)

        1st place at Scene Strike 3.

        System requirements:
        5 MB HD, "some memory"...
        recommended: VESA2 (8-bit mode available according .nfo-file),
                     pentium 166

        The demo:
          It starts with a colorfull plasma-like thingy, then "Eastgate" is
        shown using little blue lights, like some adverts at the street. A
        girl-face picture is shown, with some water-effect over it (lots of
        water in this demo). Thereafter, lots of 3D-objects kick in.
        Spikeballs (you know, a ball with 6 points), spikes (a spikeball
        without the ball) in water, a cloud of asteroids, ... These are
        all quite simple objects, apparently their 3d-engine can't handle
        the +10000 face-objects we are used to see in today's demos.
        Something original: some golden frames, forming a tunnel, with two
        strange-looking spikeballs in it. It took me a while to figure it
        out, but these are glass-objects, not just glenz as in the old days,
        but really refracting the light in it (like a lens-effect).
          Also a very nice tunnel, a bit twisted at the edges, is shown
        during the greetings.
          The music is something electronic, but also relaxed. It fits the
        demo but gets a bit repetitive at the end. There are some hand-drawn
        gfx of Ilke/plasmaters, an Amiga-graphician, but no compressed video
        as in "Anger" (I liked those short clips).

          Although there are few repeating parts, I think '2' is a bit short
        for a 5-meg demo. Using pkzip, I get a 2-meg zipfile. Maybe they need
        to use some compression on there library. And I really hate it when
        demos repeat the end until you press ESC. Can't you just crash to
        DOS/Win/Linux/... ?

          Psychic Symphony recommended me this one, and I really liked it.
        Give it a try. [ed: I did? Oh yeah... so i did!]

                                                                        Seven
        

=====! intro !=================================================================

        **********
        * STRIKE *
        **********

          It's very simple: If no one sends me some mod'o'week i cannot keep
        up with this corner. It has been sufficently proven that i cannot
        review intros, for several reasons: 1) i do not know asm so i can not
        keep up with size-coding abilities. 2) i dont have GUS so i cannot
        hear any sound on most of the intros. 3) people don't like my intro
        reviews.
          I am asking you to please send your text. Please do not review your
        own intros but someone elses you may have liked or have been asked to
        review. It is not that hard!
          If i don't get any text's i WILL close this corner simply enough!
        No matter what people will say! I do admire what people do with only
        64k, but we have another example, the gfx of the week! I also am very
        fond of viewing others gfx still i do not have a gfx'o'week corner.
        Why? Because i cannot do a proper review of the pictures and those
        who DO can, do not want to write. 
          One more time, i plea for your help!

                                                             Psychic Symphony


=====! mod !===================================================================

        OK! This week i have something different. Hope you don't hate it!
          What i did was go to #trax at 6am and asked someone (victim is
        called goopin) about his favorite tune!

        <Psychic_S> what's your favorite tracked music? (not musician)

        <goopin> hmm subbass in my house from keith303

        <Psychic_S> why that tune? why do you like it?

        <goopin> lovely rythm!
                 it's very well performed, both melody and rythm

        <Psychic_S> what about the samples? can you say something about them?

        <goopin> as we all know, keith is a great sampler =)
                 well what more can i say ?

        <Psychic_S> goopin: about keith303...

        <goopin> hmmmm okay...
                 i think keith303 is one of the best trackers on the scene
                 right, he doesnt release SO often, but when he does....
                 his tracks are well made.. he takes his time

        <Psychic_S> goopin: can u say something more about the tune?

        <goopin> subbas in my house? well no =)

        <Psychic_S> Please try!

        <goopin> hmmm okey, i'll try =) hmmm
                 it's a remix as we all now,
                 i have said it all =)

        <Psychic_S> if you had read that would you go download subbass in my
                    house?

        <goopin> psychic: well no =)

        <Psychic_S> there you go... say more!

        <goopin> write like this:
                 if you want pure house pleasure download this tune, and then
                 go around and screw ya balls =)
                 hehehe :)
                 i would download it RIGHT AWAY =)

        [editor: You can find "subbass in my house" by Keith303 at the
                 Tokyo Dawn Records homepage: <tdr.scene.org> Release #33 ]


=====! quote !=================================================================

         Subject: Re: test message
            From:
        Reply-To: demoj@scene-hu.com [ed: LOOK!!!! REPLY-TO!!!! HINT HINT!!!]
              To: demoj@scene-hu.com

        Why do i have my mailbox full of demoj@scene-hu.com mails?

        [editor: What's a mailing list?]


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        Echo................................http://www.kki.net.pl/echo
        Exceed...........................http://www.inf.bme.hu/~exceed
        Grabule........................http://members.xoom.com/grabule
        HP..................................http://www.klte.hu/~hamzap
        Hugi diskmag................http://home.pages.de/~hugidownload
        Hugi size-compo...............http://home.pages.de/~hugi-compo
        Koma...............................http://www.hut.fi/~vrantane
        Label zero.........................http://labelzero.pganet.com
        Milk.......................................http://milk.sgic.fi
        Mandula.........................http://www.inf.bme.hu/~mandula
        Melcom....................http://www.center-nebula.com/melcom/
        Melcom (mirror)......................http://www.melcom.cjb.net
        Mono211..............................http://www.scene.org/mono
        Nico....................................http://geecs.org/~nico
        Oranje Juice........................http://citeweb.net/~ojuice
        Pain............................http://www.space.ch/scene/pain
        Pixel...................................http://pixel.scene.org
        Pixel (mirror)..........................http://fsk.home.ml.org
        Pow.................................http://home.sol.no/~tskara
        Quad.....................................http://www.quad98.net
        Replay.................................members.xoom.com/r3play
        Rhyme................................http://rhyme.scene-hu.com
        Skytech team............................http://Skytech.cjb.net
        The Black Lotus.............................http://www.tbl.org
        The Immortals......................http://yoe.ml.org/immortals
        The Immortals (mirror).................http://imrt.home.ml.org
        Theralite..............................http://theralite.ml.org
        Tokyo Dawn Records........................http://tdr.scene.org
        Total Disaster...................http://www.totaldisaster.w.pl
        TPOLM...............................http://www.tpolm.scene.org              
        Trajic (Hungarian scene)...................http://scene-hu.com
        Trauma.................................http://sauna.net/trauma
        TUHB.......................................http://www.tuhb.org
        Willbe................................http://altern.org/willbe


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        scene.org..................................ftp://ftp.scene.org
        Amber.......................................ftp://amber.bti.pl
        skynet.stack.nl..........................ftp://skynet.stack.nl
        

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        Spams'r'us

          To all of those who haven't noticed it yet, you are all just
        spamming some more when you reply to a spam...
          I asked for the mailing list, i gave the names off the hotmail
        account to the mantainer so he could subscribe everyone in one full
        scoop! I did it because: 1) i want my mouse button to live!
        2) I don't want to get tendinites just for releasing a newsletter!
        3) I got several people complaining that hotmail attachments always
        ended up corrupted or ueencoded.
          I apologize to everyone for not warning properly everyone of this
        mailing-list. I reckonned people would realize that when they seen
        the reply of someone posted twice and be smart enough to ignore the
        messages. Instead they just complained about getting more mails
        which generated more mails and more replys and the rest is history.
          Anyways... Let me get this article about mailing lists right so
        that there are no more doubts about how it works. Recall that i don't
        know much on it aswell. In fact, i would like to encourage someone
        to write about them to some diskmag! Anyways...

          What is a mailing list? Well... It's very simple. It's a mailing
        system that forwards the message you have sent to all the people
        who are subscribed to that list! Moving on...
          You have a mailing list on a certain domain... For demoj it was
        chosen to be scene-hu.com!
          All mailing lists on this domain are "updated" by the majordomo
        so that if you want any information about any mailing list on this
        domain you get it through majordomo@scene-hu.com.
          But how does majordomo work? You write your command on the BODY of
        the message! It is important that you do not write it on the subject
        or majordomo won't recognize it!!! Examples:

        subscribe demoj                 <subscribes you to demoj@scene-hu.com
        unsubscribe demoj             <unsubscribes you to demoj@scene-hu.com
        who demoj                    <who is subscribed to demoj@scene-hu.com

          Notice no " or < or whatever!!! Plain command letters only. Now,
        the commands of the majordomo depend on what the owner of the domain
        set... But for scene-hu.com they are like this! Some domains have
        options for choosing which email to subscribe or unsubscribe from the
        mailing list.
          Also depending on the domain you can get several diferent replys,
        some ask for you to retype some data so you can confirm your
        subscribing/unsubscribing. Others plain ask for a reply with a blank
        message! It's important that you READ what they want!!! ;)

          There! I hope some people have become more alert. It still was my
        fault because i subscribed everyone without proper warning. But
        please direct you anger to me and not the mailing-list! It will only
        spam everybody else and won't solve anything...

                                                             Psychic Symphony


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